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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232027404" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232027404">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>So, a couple different meetings are using emoji reactions as a way to gather rough counts of partcipant feedback</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232027494" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232027494">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g. for backport decisions we take a rough tally from participants by asking them to hit one of the following: <span aria-label="back" class="emoji emoji-1f519" role="img" title="back">:back:</span> , <span aria-label="stop" class="emoji emoji-1f91a" role="img" title="stop">:stop:</span> , <span aria-label="shrug" class="emoji emoji-1f937" role="img" title="shrug">:shrug:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232027534" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232027534">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>in order to ease things for the partcipants in the meeting, I always prefill the values. So I’ll go and add each of the above, like so:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232027643" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232027643">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I noticed that another meeting lead was doing something similar ,but leveraging triagebot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232027783" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232027783">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Either approach (me adding it myself, or a robot adding it) has the disadantages that the numbers are always “off-by-one”. (Unless I were to go and “unclick” my prefill results, that is)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232027863" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232027863">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>So I was just wondering: IS there some extension to the Zulip format that would let us add these emojis to a comment, but attach the number “0” to them?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232027883" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232027883">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically to cover this “prefill” case?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232028004" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232028004">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not aware of anything like this, I suspect that the upstream developers would prefer to finish off or fix any problems with <code>/poll</code> rather than implement as niche a feature as this.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232028123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232028123">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah I was wondering about that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232028146" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232028146">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I should find out if <code>/poll</code> works on mobile devices yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232028315" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232028315">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I had a proposal at some point to do this but didn't follow up</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232028402" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232028402">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count/near/232028315">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I think I had a proposal at some point to do this but didn't follow up</p>
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<p>to do which? Fix <code>/poll</code> ? Or add zero-counted emojis?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232028543" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232028543">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>zero counted emojis, but I guess I didn't file it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232028549" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232028549">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/zulip/zulip-mobile/issues/3205">https://github.com/zulip/zulip-mobile/issues/3205</a> is the mobile poll issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232028699" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232028699">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could in theory have a polling-based, at minimum, and ideally webhook-based system where the bot updates the comment with actual numbers</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232028715" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232028715">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>but in practice that doesn't <em>really</em> seem worth it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232028769" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232028769">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116107">davidtwco</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count/near/232028004">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I'm not aware of anything like this, I suspect that the upstream developers would prefer to finish off or fix any problems with <code>/poll</code> rather than implement as niche a feature as this.</p>
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<p>I would say that 'fixing poll' feels much harder to me and also .. I actually really like the reaction based voting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232028787" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232028787">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>(poll has felt clunky to me)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232029894" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232029894">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's certainly a more involved fix, and there are absolutely ways that poll could be more usable, but in my experience with a handful of $dayjob-related contributions to Zulip, they strongly prefer to see progress on a full feature that fixes a problem rather than a in-the-meantime solution.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232030011" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232030011">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, I mean that it feels like the emoji thing might <em>be</em> the long-term solution to simple polls that don't -- for example -- need after the fact editing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232030017" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232030017">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>/poll testing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji%20reactions%20with%20zero%20count/near/232030041" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count.html#232030041">(Mar 26 2021 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/emoji.20reactions.20with.20zero.20count/near/232030011">said</a>:</p>
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<p>well, I mean that it feels like the emoji thing might <em>be</em> the long-term solution to simple polls that don't -- for example -- need after the fact editing</p>
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<p>that does make sense to me</p>



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